Village Idiot

Joined

• started 37 topics
• posted 4,529 times   see topics posted on
• send a message

Posts by Village Idiot

• 
  36

  Walking away will get you D/Fed

  by Drifting Away in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  someone just told my wife, that those who are just leaving organization or not going anymore will be dfed, has anyone read that or heard of that?

  i have seen nothing of that, and according to jackson at royal commission, we are free to go as we please...

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Village Idiot

  They were disfellowshipping those who were no longer in attendance in the early 1980s. They had an article where they equated those who were not at the meetings, calling them disassociated, with those who were disfellowshipped. In the Watchtower article, they even made it a point to write out disassociated/disfellowshipped in one word with that slash.

  Raymond Franz himself was disfellowshipped for having a meal with his landlord/employer who was an inactive member (even though the article came out after he was seen with him).

  In my disfellowshipping appeal, I told the elders that I wanted to disassociate myself and they said that it would not make a difference based on that very same article.

  I also knew an elderly lady JW and neighbor of mine that was disfellowshipped around that time simply for not attending the meetings.
  

  I don't think they're doing that anymore but you never know; they can go back to it anytime.
  
• 
  53

  My Dad wants to study with me

  by BlackWolf in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so my parents continue to pester me about getting baptized.

  the other day my dad told me that i was old enough to make a decision, and was wondering why i wasn't ready (assembly is in a few weeks) so i told him calmly that i have many doubts and if i were to get baptized it has to be 100 percent my idea.

  he was a little annoyed by this, and now wants to study the "is there a creator that cares about you" book (which is complete bs) with me.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Village Idiot

  BlackWolf,
  

  ...if worse comes to worse maybe one of my non jw relatives will let me stay with them.
  

  As Outlaw said you might want to touch bases with your non-JW relatives before anything happens. One thing is sure, you're not going to get out of your situation until you get out of their house.
  
• 
  52

  You wake up one morning and see

  by A Believer in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the un has banned religion.

  what are you're thoughts?.

  also changes to it seem to be on the way.... http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/12/trump-vows-israel-vote-161224040133216.html.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Village Idiot

  tepidpoultry,
  

  You guys realize of course that talking to us like this is a disfellowshipping offence...
  

  He thinks he's Don Quixote fighting windmills.
  
• 
  52

  You wake up one morning and see

  by A Believer in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the un has banned religion.

  what are you're thoughts?.

  also changes to it seem to be on the way.... http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/12/trump-vows-israel-vote-161224040133216.html.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Village Idiot

  A Believer,
  

  You wake up one morning and see, The UN has banned religion. What are you're thoughts?
  

  Silly boy. Grow up.
  
• 
  201

  I am glad to have found the true religion

  by A Believer in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  it really is great.

  i remember browsing this forum the day after i had joined it, and their was a knock on the door.

  i thought it was one of my package from ups but instead it was two sisters.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Village Idiot

  A Believer,
  

  The Bible is about how Gods intention for the Earth was to be a paradise, and how it will be returned to that way.

  It seems that you don't know your Christian scriptures at all. In it you'll find that the crux of those scriptures is about God's plan for salvation of sinful man not some pretty trees and cute Panda Bears. It's sad that an atheist should have to tell you this.
  
• 
  15

  A Question about Spiritistic Books

  by schnell in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i have a nearly academic interest in the occult, though i am not a spiritualist and remain a skeptic.

  i've come to learn that demons are based on everything from dust devils in the desert, to diseases, to actual people.

  probably most of all, demons are a tool of good ol' fashioned con artists and fear mongers.. but here's a question.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Village Idiot

  One of the most fascinating, and somewhat sad, things Sir Conan Doyle, the author of the Sherlock Holmes detective series, accepted Theosophy completely right down to the existence of fairies. One of his not so memorable books was entitled The Coming of the Fairies. In it he tried to prove the existence of those wee critters by using the most ridiculous and obviously fake photographs. A supreme irony that he was the author of a character that was a super logical detective.

  Doyle was haunted, not by demons but by many of his dead relatives who died a premature death during his lifetime. He took comfort with Theosophy's promise that one can communicate with the dead.

  Below is one of the photographs that he took seriously in his book.
  

  
  
• 
  201

  I am glad to have found the true religion

  by A Believer in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  it really is great.

  i remember browsing this forum the day after i had joined it, and their was a knock on the door.

  i thought it was one of my package from ups but instead it was two sisters.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Village Idiot

  I came to this thread late but here's my two cents. A poem that I wrote sometime ago.

  You're going to grow old and gray

  And if you ever have children so will they

  So remember me on this very day

  When in defiance of your false prophet

  I lift up my voice and say

  You, your children and their grandchildren

  Are going to grow old and gray

  All of you who follow the Watchtower way

  Do not look upon tomorrow with conceit and arrogance

  For you will be humbled, bowing, no more haughty stance

  Just remember me on that future day

  When you finally have grown old and gray

  Remember your foolish lie

  When it's time for you to die
  
• 
  53

  My Dad wants to study with me

  by BlackWolf in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so my parents continue to pester me about getting baptized.

  the other day my dad told me that i was old enough to make a decision, and was wondering why i wasn't ready (assembly is in a few weeks) so i told him calmly that i have many doubts and if i were to get baptized it has to be 100 percent my idea.

  he was a little annoyed by this, and now wants to study the "is there a creator that cares about you" book (which is complete bs) with me.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Village Idiot

  You mentioned before that your father has anger issues. That means that you should not study with him at all since it will aggravate both you and him.

  Does he have "explosive rage" where he shouts at the top of his lungs instantly for no good reason? If so, then count the days until you're 18.

  Be prepared to have a job by then and find a roommate ahead of time.
  
• 
  31

  "Historical" Announcement This Week?

  by headisspinning in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  my daughter asked if anyone has heard anything about a 'big announcement' being made sometime this week in congregations in canada and possibly beyond... in her words "it's like a biggggg long thing, they cut out part of the book study for it and people heard it was a historical thing"... any ideas?

  could it be the mexican branch closing or the theme of the convention?

  or something else?

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Village Idiot

  I remember hearing, from a talk by a circuit overseer, that "the society has information available that we are going to be persecuted". He did not go into details. I asked the elder I was studying with what that information was. He did not give me a reply.

  Many years later, the same overseer, same talk.
  
• 
  57

  Jehovah's Witness / ex-JW Suicide Rate?

  by Simon in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  it's no secret that both remaining a jw or leaving the wts can take a toll on mental health.

  some will suffer from depression and ultimately some will have thoughts of suicide and a few will succumb to those.. but i don't recall ever seeing any hard stats or studies on it though.

  i'm sure we all know of some people who have committed suicide but i don't know if, because you may have loose association with a much larger pool of people through the religion, that this only seems higher or maybe not be actually higher than the general population.. what i mean is, you go to a kh here there maybe 100-150 people, you attend circuit and district conventions with many tens of thousands - if any one person commits suicide then you likely hear about it and it becomes part of the anecdotal 'evidence' that is then put forward as a fact that there is a higher rate ... but is there?.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Village Idiot

  I remember one of my judicial committee elders tell me that those who were out of the 'Truth' were prone to committing suicide. I really hated him after that.